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    Posted: 20 May 2010 at 12:12
It would increase torque and reduce weight.  Through sacrifice, it would psychologically strenghten you at maniac levels.  Other activities such as abstanance from communication may follow to channel the energy even greater.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Useless1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 12:18
You could always try it and let us knowWink I'd be careful you don't cut off the one you type with though
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Der_Echte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 12:19

Sid, I don't see how cutting an arm off would help ur TT game, but at last weekend's Paju tourney near the DMZ (a creepy place to be just before South Korea officially announces North Korea fired a torpedo that sank their warship) I saw a gent play some outstanding TT and his left arm was a prostetic arm. He did the ball toss with paddle in right hand and served OK. He was 5th division, but had USATT 1800-2000 skillz. There were a LOT of players fitting that description in div 5, a relatively low level in the Korean tourneys.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote SIDOFMILLENIUM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 12:22

Its just an analogy guys, Waldner abandoned family to pursue career.  Fischer abandoned life.  How far would athletes go to win?  At what cost?  Are these legends like Newton social failures which is why they devote themselves so they can prove how they are deserving? 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote wiggy63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 12:28
You would lose balance, then in a moment of ill thought out madness, cut off your other arm to balance, which would work, but you would not be able to hold your bat.
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Dont cut off yr head...
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like wiggy said, it would result in balance issues.
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I like this idea, but why stop at your arm?
shave your head [eyebrows included] for a more streamlined shape
trim off any excess external  body parts that are not essential to save weight like earlobes, little fingers
obviously you have to remove the internals too - appendix,tonsils and any other vesigial body parts.You could also lose a pint or so of blood to keep the weight down
finally you could make sure you exhale before moving, the less air in you system, the lighter you are and obviously the faster you will move - time your breathing so you are only full of air when stationary.

excellent post/thread - i'm looking forwards to it growing into a real tool for us wannabe TT greats!

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I'm screaming with laughter here, this is the best thread in a long while, up there with the edge-tape one.

Sid, you needn't worry about being 'psychologically strengthened at maniac levels', you're already there, mate.

Reminds me of Peter Shilton, legendary England goalie, (and a bit short on the grey matter), who once famously said 'I'd give my right arm to play for England again'.

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Probably more effective to cut your opponents arm off though :)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote wiggy63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 19:41
Originally posted by SIDOFMILLENIUM

It would increase torque and reduce weight.  Through sacrifice, it would psychologically strenghten you at maniac levels.  Other activities such as abstanance from communication may follow to channel the energy even greater.  
 
 Could you imagine a 100mtr sprinter chopping his legs off, he would have a definite weight advantage, reduced drag, and phenominal energy chanelled into his buttocks as he rocketed up the track........on his arseLOL
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Originally posted by SIDOFMILLENIUM

Its just an analogy guys, Waldner abandoned family to pursue career.  Fischer abandoned life.  How far would athletes go to win?  At what cost?  Are these legends like Newton social failures which is why they devote themselves so they can prove how they are deserving? 


Very far. Many athletes have taken drugs knowing that it would kill them eventually.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SIDOFMILLENIUM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 21:39
So would you rather have a short magical life or a long meaningful one?
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don't you mean long meaningless one?

anyway, what makes you think a world champions life has any more meaning than mine?

listen to this and think about the importance of little "meaningless" joys in life...

wang hao got drunk probably for the first time in his life after winning the world championship and still got scolded for it. only after becoming the world champion was he allowed to have a girlfriend...

if someone offered me to switch places with wang hao my answer would be thanks but no thanks. if someone offered him my life he would probably give the same answer. all i'm saying is, don't be so quick to judge someones way of life as meaningless or meaningful.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote black sheep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 23:34
I would rather have a long meaningful one - they are not mutually exclusive - also its a big misnomer that top sportsmen are happier just because they are top sportsmen - they are people who have highs and lows just like everyone else.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 23:39
Interesting link there Izraphel!

I once read a story about a poll taken of amateur long distance runners.  This was years ago, before all the doping scandals in sports, before suspicion concerning unusual results was automatic.  They were asked if they would take a drug that would make them win the Boston marathon but would also cause them die within two years.  Something like 40% said they would...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wiggy63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2010 at 00:49
Originally posted by wingspan

Interesting link there Izraphel!

I once read a story about a poll taken of amateur long distance runners.  This was years ago, before all the doping scandals in sports, before suspicion concerning unusual results was automatic.  They were asked if they would take a drug that would make them win the Boston marathon but would also cause them die within two years.  Something like 40% said they would...
interestingly  , given the chance of winning the world TT mens singles within 5 yrs, and as a consequence dying 5 yrs later, I would think many would choose to be world champ, a life of mediocracy vs making your mark, we are all gonna die sometime........... I guess your age would come into the equation though...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote garwor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2010 at 01:30
Maybe just cutting the bat to smaller size would be big enough sacrifice, bat is almost part of our bodies...


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Hmm, you are right.  In my experience, the faster the blood travels, the slower the time becomes.(ex.  Fear vs sleep)  Therefore, a meaningful life would be a more experienced one.  Hence, I take my statement back.  An athlete's life would actually be more meaningful.  However, although, there maybe more glory and glamour, it can never match a peaceful life a family has. 

So, does that mean those who chose this path are the ones who have given up on peace in life?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote black sheep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2010 at 09:57
Interesting stuff, personally i dont think anything is worth winning unless you earn it - gettting a 'shortcut or pill' from someone else just negates the whole thing for me.

Its also interesting that some people think that the opposite of winning a world champs or being succesful at a sport is mediocraty - personally i believe the opposite - I think devoting your whole life, and sacrificing all other things in persuit of sporting success is madness whether you win a world champs/olympic medal or not. The whole 'going down in history, and making your mark' is a fallacy as far as i can see it, but then again its horses for courses!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Izraphel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2010 at 14:09
Originally posted by black sheep


Its also interesting that some people think that the opposite of winning a world champs or being succesful at a sport is mediocraty - personally i believe the opposite - I think devoting your whole life, and sacrificing all other things in persuit of sporting success is madness whether you win a world champs/olympic medal or not. The whole 'going down in history, and making your mark' is a fallacy as far as i can see it, but then again its horses for courses!

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sid are you reffering to the forehand chop......sorry i couldnt resist
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Post Options Post Options   Quote black sheep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2010 at 14:52
Originally posted by Pot Noodle

sid are you reffering to the forehand chop......sorry i couldnt resist


Haw Haw Haw - made me chuckle that did! You can add the 'Backhand Slice' to it too!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Timo22 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 May 2010 at 14:37
In training sessions with Dan Seemiller, he spends some time on the free arm, showing how to use it for balance and to use it to PULL your shoulder back and PULL your shoulder down to help your lifting motion on counter looping and looping underspin balls respectively. The rest of this thread would make an interesting episode on "The Twighlight Zone" Tongue LOL

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