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    Posted: 09 June 2010 at 21:41
For various reasons, none of the very reasonable, I'm thinking of joining the tenergy club.  Alphapong was kind enough to supply me with two used sheets of 05 (2.1) to try out and I put them on an unused blade to play with at work.

The sheets belonged to a usatt 2400 level guy who I know hits the ball pretty hard.  They're pretty beat up (especially the black one) and have no click left in them but feel pretty solid/meaty anyway.

My question is: how will new sheets play compared to these?  Will they be a lot livelier/bouncier/faster?  Or not that much?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote haehne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2010 at 22:52
after what i have read so far new sheets of tenergy feel like cr*p and it does need some time for them to break in. after that period they seem to be the real deal. thus it might be a good thing that you got some used ones to try but you might be negatively surprised if you try a new sheet.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2010 at 04:17
Wingspan,

When I was falsely tempting you back into EJhood by trying to get you to try another blade, I had no idea it would send you into a soon to be search for the ideal rubber frenzy! Don't do it! Save your soul! Also when we hit the other night it seems like your power,spin and control with the Xiom rubbers were all just fine and very steady. Go for the foot work instead. It's more effective and a lot cheaper than the additional $20 a sheet for Tenergies.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2010 at 07:03
Damn, this forum is not what it used to be!  Where's a good EJ when you need one?
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the main problem i had  with tenergy is the huge shrinkage that occurs after removing it from the blade,this alters the playing characteristic dramatically,i found that the spin was reduced considerably,that aside it sounds as though the sheet your using is well past its replacement date,didn`t notice much of a click with this when new,that could be blade subjective though,...waiting for fx version

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Post Options Post Options   Quote garwor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2010 at 16:19
Friend if mine bought tenergies 2.1 year ago and still playing with them. I tried his bat from time to time. I remember that they were pretty hard in the begining, hard to push with them, not consistent at all, once ball goes into net once longer than table. But he used old glue many times (at least 40 times), and new also (similar number), depends what he had at the moment, and also removed glue from sponge many times. Sponge become vary damaged (from removin new glue) with small holes...but rubber now is just great, not hard at all, has kick, very good for block and loop(on his Balsa Carbo x5 off blade). Better than new, I'd say. At least in hands of player of my class.
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Originally posted by topspin chopper

the main problem i had  with tenergy is the huge shrinkage that occurs after removing it from the blade,this alters the playing characteristic dramatically,i found that the spin was reduced considerably,that aside it sounds as though the sheet your using is well past its replacement date,didn`t notice much of a click with this when new,that could be blade subjective though,...waiting for fx version


Other people have mentioned to me that the sound is dependent on the blade.  The blade I put them on is not fast, all+ or in that range.

Where is that tenergy05 lover guy?? Cry
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After a while (about 60 hours) the topsheet loses spin, the pace is still there though, some players prefer it when it has 'gone off' but I prefer the superb pace and spin mix when it is new.
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Wiggy, how do you clean it and how often?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote one ply Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2010 at 00:10
Ive had my T05 for over a year,ive had a spare sheet for 9 months,but everytime i think about changing to the new one,just think why should i change something that works so well!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tinykin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2010 at 01:06
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2010 at 04:09
So far I like the brush looping aspect of it.  Controlling pushes though has been hard, I can see my serve return going from 3/10 to -1/10 with this stuff.
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Heh, not if you start flicking. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tenergy05 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2010 at 02:28
Wing Span welcome,

Although I used 05 both sides for longer than anything else, I have been using t64 again on my backhand only for that dreaded phrase you said above:

SERVICE RETURN.

It is a tough one, 64 still has most that tenergy love but just a little less that stuff like this is manageable. 

The other alternative that I did for a long time: Put your new sheet on your fh and the old on the backhand.

Save money, I used my first sheet last night which is about 2 years old real beat up, it plays very well but the surface grip has gone but i can still spin enormous spin when I go for a full depth shot.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2010 at 02:58
Ah there you are .... thanks for the info!  Does 64 have the lifespan that 05 does?
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Originally posted by Tinykin

Wiggy, how do you clean it and how often?
 Just water, but I do 're-set' it by removing it and sticking back on about once every month.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tenergy05 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2010 at 03:22
life span is much of a muchness, if talking about keeping its original quality they are the same, when talking about which is more fragile t64 is slightly
when talking about which will be still spinny for the longest period, it is 05 hands down.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2010 at 04:42
Hey Wingspan I have a sheet of t64 that I don't like, so if you want to try it you can. It will probably play really well on that flexy Off- blade that you almost tried. Let me know if you'd like to jump off your 12 step TT equipment path! Of course to really get a feel for Tenergy you must try it on several different types of bladesEvil Smile. I have about 15 or 20 in my bag with your initials on them, "666" I believe!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2010 at 20:40
Yes thank you!  Finally...

Ok I'll take it!  Since we don't run into each other that often can you mail it to me?  I'll be at the alameda club tomorrow afternoon though for the RR.
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Originally posted by wiggy63

 but I do 're-set' it by removing it and sticking back on about once every month.


What affect does this have?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2010 at 23:26
So I bit the bullet and bought a couple of sheets, 05 and 64 in 2.1mm.  Not sure what blade I'm going to try them on though. 

So wiggy, why do you "reset" the sheets once a month? 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2010 at 02:36
Ok so I've been smacking the ball around at work with the sheets for a few days now and I have to say I wasn't impressed at first.  But today for some reason the 05 came alive, especially on bh loops.  It was really fun!

I haven't had an issue with the weight so far, both sheets are ok, the 64 being lighter.  It's also noticeably springier and faster than the 05, so far I'm not liking it as much.  The throw angle is ok, not crazy high like I was expecting.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Skippy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2010 at 21:22
Originally posted by wiggy63

After a while (about 60 hours) the topsheet loses spin, the pace is still there though, some players prefer it when it has 'gone off' but I prefer the superb pace and spin mix when it is new.


I could not agree more Wiggy.  About every three months I replace this rubber.  I would replace it every two months except it's too expensive for me to replace 6 times a year.  I find lifting the ball with T05 becomes much much more difficult after 2-3 months, and serves become much less effective.  I keep mine pristinely clean and flexible too.  Brand new right out of the package is exactly the way I like my T05.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote topspin chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2010 at 21:38

you can retrieve the original grip and more  if you apply spinmax aqeous



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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2010 at 08:21
Does tenergy work right out of the box for you guys or do you find that you have to remove it after the first gluing and reattach it before it really comes to life?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Baal2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:09
I find that taking it off and regluing it changes its properties a lot.  I personally do not like the result at all.
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The best day is the first day.  Its slowly downhill from there.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wingspan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2010 at 02:26
Well I've joined the club.  T05 2.1 on bh and fh now.  The spin and feel on brush looping is crazy...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tt4u Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2010 at 10:53
Good for all of you for those who can handle and afford it.
I find the old sheets are what I am looking for, or may be the red one. The way I get the most out the old T05 is--this is what I just recently remember doing--to have the rubber sticks to the blade really well. I use Elmers and it's thin. So I apply two layers on both blade and rubbers the last few days.  I don't want to be able to take the rubber off easily like speed glue. What glue (rubber cement)  is thick and strong and is available in US?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wiggy63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2010 at 13:36
Originally posted by Baal2

The best day is the first day.  Its slowly downhill from there.
 I agree 100% topsheet goes off first after about three weeks, followed by a gradual decline in pace, this can be marginally restored by re-fixing, but in all, if i could, I would change Tenergy about every three weeks. I play about 5 days a week.

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After a few months, the T05 on my TBS shrank like someone put it in the microwave oven. It does not play anywhere near as well as the first week. I cut it 1 mm past flush and after a couple months, it shrunk to 2-3 mm short of the blade edge.
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