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    Posted: 19 July 2010 at 15:32
After a match, how much can you remember about the person you played?

Last night I played a guy I have never played before and beat him. I played well, and I'm sure I was actually thinking during the match. The thing is, after the match I was watching him play someone else and I was trying to think of simple facts about his game like which his stronger wing was. I couldn't even remember from my match which it was. Surely this is basic information which I should be able to recall about my opponents?
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Um . . .  Usually.

I mostly take in the main points of a player, which side he favours, which shot he goes to under pressure.

But if both sides are even then you could well come out with no clear idea of which side he prefers. And if he doesn't have any stand out shots then he might just be a big blank to you.

I know I usually have a clear idea of my opponent, unless I was playing badly and then I was mostly focused internally. I also don't get very good reads on players that are much better or much worse. Because either nothing they did was much good or everything they did was much better!!

Often it is easier to see the strengths and weaknesses of a player against someone else.

But you have to look out for people like one of my brothers that change their game to suit each player and sometimes deliberately play in a baffling manner.


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This is a sign of improvement, when you play local league tt you know that you will be playing the same players three or four times a season and as a consequence you try to learn a way to play against each local player, this is often to the detriment of improvement in your own general level of play. When you start to broaden your horizons you no longer have the luxury of developing a strategy for every player so you have to impose your own game to be successful. Now you are no longer trying to combat what your opponent might do you are coping with what they are doing.
There is a good example of this in every local league, a player who has become a top local player by learning to play a style that is difficult for the other top local players. This player is always near the top of the averages locally but struggles in tournament play, often other local players who this player always beats have vastly superior results in tournaments out of town. 
There is no mystery involved in this, the more different players you play the better you get at playing different players. 
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I go as far as noticing whether someone is left handed and not much else. Most things are automatic.
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Some people are left handed?
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At most I remember 3-4 things from each match.  Typically which of my serves worked against them and why and which of their serves worked against me and why.  If I win or lose a bunch of points in a certain way then sometimes I'll make a mental note of that as well.

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Originally posted by Hatman

This is a sign of improvement, when you play local league tt you know that you will be playing the same players three or four times a season and as a consequence you try to learn a way to play against each local player, this is often to the detriment of improvement in your own general level of play. When you start to broaden your horizons you no longer have the luxury of developing a strategy for every player so you have to impose your own game to be successful. Now you are no longer trying to combat what your opponent might do you are coping with what they are doing.
There is a good example of this in every local league, a player who has become a top local player by learning to play a style that is difficult for the other top local players. This player is always near the top of the averages locally but struggles in tournament play, often other local players who this player always beats have vastly superior results in tournaments out of town. 
There is no mystery involved in this, the more different players you play the better you get at playing different players. 


So you're saying this is a sign that I'm improving. Well I never expected that answer to be honest Hatman. But thankyou, the way you describe it, it really makes sense. Very interesting.
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I tend to remember things that I done that worked, rather things about my opponent. Like if I played someone in the first weekend of Junior BL, I'll remember what I did to beat them when I play them again the 2nd weekend.

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