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    Posted: 21 January 2007 at 19:45
Hey, does anyone know what equipment did schlager use in 47th world championship when he became the world champ?  Btw, this is weird, but I have to say it, I think schlager got lucky b/c he lost to all the good players b/fore the championship and after the championship.  He just happened to be at his peak in the world championship.  Also, these days, don't you guys think he is a slump right now?  May be his personal life is affected or what but he is missing normal shots.  I have seen his performance in the world championship recently but I am talking about minor tourneys.

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I am sure he was using his current set up for the World Champs he won in Paris 2003: Butterfly Schlager Carbon With Butterfly Bryce 2.1 Fitted Rubbers. No one get's lucky to win the World Champs you have to win many match's and none of them are easy, Schlager beat amongst many Wang Liqin and Kong Linghui, If that is luck then good luck to him this Worlds in 2007? Also I think Schlager has had his best day's a few years ago, He is still very good or he wouldn't be a top 20 player but age could be a factor and newer and younger players coming through. Anyway I think he did tremendous to win the 2003 World Champs and goodluck to him.
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He used a wooden blade composite with carbon, and two sheets of rubber with sponge underneath.

Peaking at a World Championships is not luck, it is good preperation.
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I have heard that he is one of very few european players that JO admires, so I'll guess he got some skill. Perhaps he peaked at the right moment, perhaps he was a tad lucky to be the onlyone who did, but winning the World championship can never be reduced to pure luck.

Whats with this enquires about the pro's gear? Afraid you'r poster isn't correct? Seriously, why does it mather what he used or claimed to use?
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he has very very good touch
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The guy won the Tabletennis World Champs, What have you won?



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Hey guys, Schlager is my favorite too and luck always favors the strongest.  My point is,  he is not a consistent player on that luck thing.  B/c he lost to Wang liqin all the time except in the W.C. and even in that, he was loosing 10-6 in the game and in the match 2 to 3.  He came back from that, it was like a miracle happening. 

Anyways, he was using some Joola equipment that I know b/c he was sponsored by them at that time.  So do any of you know what that might be?
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Schlager was just wearing Joola clothing because the Austrian Tabletennis Association is sponsored by Joola.
Schlager's sponsor is Butterfly and the equipment he used in the 2003 World Championships (just like the equipment he uses now) was already mentioned in this thread.
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You must admit that Schlager was a bit "lucky" to have won. I think he was #9 or so in the world rankings when he won? I know that they are all capable of beating each other on a different day etc etc, but Schlager really hit a major purple patch during the world champs. Before and after that, we have not seen much of him.

Ryu in the olympics was somewhat similar, but not as bad since he did win some pro tours going into the Olympics.

I think Schlager is unusual in the sense that he is a professional with "amateur" technique. Hence he needs and uses really fast equipment to make up for lack of technique. Of course, he is really talented to be able to control the equipment. I think its this amateur technique + talent + superfast equipment that makes him really unstable. This is somewhat like pips-out hitters, who, if they get it all on, are unplayable, and when they dont, they just kill themselves.


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Ryu in the olympics was somewhat similar, but not as bad since he did win some pro tours going into the Olympics.



Ryu more than deserved his gold

he dominated all his matches, and wasn't lucky that his opponent choked when he was down 4 match points.

I think Ryu peaked then, i haven't seen him play as well ever since.
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His form is somewhat less graceful than other players at the top level but I don't really understand what is so 'amateur' about his technique.
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I had the 2003 recorded on video and I have watched it many times (sad I know) But yes Schlager was at his best form during that Champs and he developed a win at no cost game with his super fast equiptment i.e: Very risky early counter topspins, Which actually paid off for him and he took the title. During that Champs Schlager beat another player on form in the final who had a difficult style of play to contend with combining attack with defence, Schlager played excellent Tabletennis in the final and came through.

Is Schlager or Ryu as good as say Waldner or Kong Linghui 'NO' But what they do have is a style of play which allows them to be the best they can be and it paid off for both of them. The World Champs and Olympics in Tabletennis is so hard to win that just winning once is enough to go down as a great player IMO.

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SIDOFMILENIUM:Hey guys, Schlager is my favorite too and luck always favors the strongest.  My point is,  he is not a consistent player on that luck thing.  B/c he lost to Wang liqin all the time except in the W.C. and even in that, he was loosing 10-6 in the game and in the match 2 to 3.  He came back from that, it was like a miracle happening. 

O'k Sidofmilenium, Schlager was fortunate to survive and win his match with Liqin, He was not lucky to win his other match's though. Schlager who wasn't tipped to win the world Champs came from nowhere and beat the worlds best with a very risky game based on very difficult shots to execute. Schlager wasn't the best player in the world before or after the 2003 Champs but He managed to give Europe the title and keep it from a relatively boring China win. Schlager won this title at an age were most Chinese players have retired. I think like Persson and Gatien He deserves to go down as one of the great European players.
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I was told that sometime BEFORE Paris Schlager’s old blade was by some small Austrian firm specially made for him
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